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arquin
06 Jul 2009, 03:14 PM
A rough write up of what I want from my partner, bare with me:

I've invested a heap of money into a new laptop/camera/video camera for my journalism and intend to make a travel journalism site. Instead of just having destinations and profiles, I'd like to center the site around the adventures and experiences to be had at said destination. I don't want it to be like most other travel sites that have great hotels and contiki tours. Summaries that lump an entire population/nation into a few sentences along side a star rating out of 5 and a cheesy "describe this country in 1 word" bit. Most of my travel will be in the cheapest hostels I can find, and the food I eat will be ramen noodles/road side shops unless I'm actually writing about the food.

I've got the flights all paid for, I've got the resources to get the stories, but I lack the ability to publish them in a format I'm happy with. I can make a blog on a site like blogger, but it doesn't look or feel right to me. The adds (which are necessary to make money) are placed badly/awkwardly and detract from the enjoyability of the site. People will come back if the content is good. But if there are so many adds you can't ****ing see the content, well, no dice.

You have nothing to lose except a small portion of your time, I'll pay for everything: Hosting, marketing/advertising, the money that goes into getting the actual stories, EVERYTHING. Nothing needs to come out your pocket. What I will do is write up content on a pretty frequent basis which I will then email to you and expect you to publish it in a 'neat' and 'trendy' manner. Basically I just want my **** to look professional. I'll include the photos and videos, you just get them on the net. That's it.

For this, depending on your ability, you'd receive a portion of all money the website makes. The percentage you earn will be between 15-30% depending mostly on your ability and examples of work. Rate of pay is negotiable. The reason you earn a % and not a set amount is because the better the site goes, the more you earn. It's a simple way to motivate the designer as their effort is directly mirrored by the rewards they reap.

The amount of money I'd be willing to invest in advertising will be quite low at the start, with around $30- $60 per month or my cut of the earnings (depending on what's greater). On top of this I will do other types of marketing.

After 3-6 months of one pay rate, we'd negotiate a new one depending on how much work you're doing and how well the site is going. We can also discuss if you'd like to continue with the project, if you feel it's not for you, what ever.

When I send you an article, I'd expect it up and published with in a week. This has the potential to be stressful as I could send you two articles a week. So you'd need to publish them both before the next week. I never want the site to be more than a week behind.

Examples of things I'll be doing are: Skydiving (10 jumps), bungee jumping (3 jumps), heliboarding (3 runs), jet boating, snowboarding in general, para gliding over Kathmandu valley, hiking to a enormous marijuana field in the Terrai region of Nepal, living in a Buddhist monastery, teaching orphans English, climbing a 6,500 meter mountain, white water rafting, snorkeling/diving in Thailand, full moon parties, how to score drugs in weird cultures, partying, etc

These are all things that would make for interesting travel articles. On top of that, there will be a lot of cultural stuff.

I have skype/msn/facebook, so that's how we'd communicate.

I'm leaving in 27 days, the trip will take around 2 years, there's no obligation (obviously) for you to get on board this long, but the longer the better as with most websites, initial earnings are quite low and they grow overtime, often reaching very respectable amounts.

This is serious, I'd write up contracts and we'd both sign them. You need to be trustworthy and easy to work with. The technical demands I have will be quite low, but the ability to make things look very neat and professional are important. Time is the only thing you're investing, and the only thing that can happen is that you can make not as MUCH money as you thought, but there is no way you can LOSE money.

David Bowley
07 Jul 2009, 04:16 AM
To a freelance web designer: time is money. So by risking time on a project that may not make them any cash is risking money that could be gotten from other projects.

I also think that the type of person you are looking for will be hard to find. You don't just want someone to make the site, you want them to make it profitable too. So you want a web designer, and an SEO/marketing person, and someone with the knowledge of how to make money out of the site. If you can find all that in one person (which you can) then they'd much rather be working on their own projects earning 100% of the income from their own sites.

arquin
08 Jul 2009, 02:06 AM
To a freelance web designer: time is money. So by risking time on a project that may not make them any cash is risking money that could be gotten from other projects.

I also think that the type of person you are looking for will be hard to find. You don't just want someone to make the site, you want them to make it profitable too. So you want a web designer, and an SEO/marketing person, and someone with the knowledge of how to make money out of the site. If you can find all that in one person (which you can) then they'd much rather be working on their own projects earning 100% of the income from their own sites.

You have a fair few points. Although a few things:

1. "You don't just want someone to make the site, you want them to make it profitable too"

Not true. I want them to HELP me make it profitable. I will put everything I can into making the site profitable, why wouldn't I expect my partner to help? We will obviously think in different ways. I do journalism, he/she does web design.

2. "...they'd much rather be working on their own projects earning 100% of the income from their own sites."

What I'm proposing wont take a lot of time on their behalf. I'm providing them with content that they would probably not be able to come by. 100% original stuff. Yes they could be making their site, but it would have to be about something they knew about and I doubt they'd be investing as much as I am (time and money) into creating their content. Content is the most important thing a website can offer. So why wouldn't they just piggy back on my site while also developing their own? I will write, photograph and film my stories, I will assemble everything and let them know how I'd prefer it to be published. I'll also give them create freedom if what I've requested for some reason is too complicated.

All this, coupled with the small amount of hours per month it would take to work on my site, make it a win/win situation. It WILL make money, how much is a different story. But providing they stick it out, it will be worth their time.

Also I found a person willing to help and they're from this forum. :)

Corrosive
08 Jul 2009, 11:55 AM
I know you have said you have found someone but I'd be looking at Wordpress for a site like this. Publish your own stuff and have 100% of the income. You will need it if you are covering 'how to score drugs in weird cultures'.

arquin
09 Jul 2009, 02:17 AM
I know you have said you have found someone but I'd be looking at Wordpress for a site like this. Publish your own stuff and have 100% of the income. You will need it if you are covering 'how to score drugs in weird cultures'.

I'll take a look at it.

Also, by "score drugs in weird cultures" I meant gray areas of the law. An example: in Nepal, weed is a WEED, and is not regulated or cared about.